Follow Orders
- "Judge not lest ye be judged." If people who are gay say they were born that way, I have no problem with it. I was born left-handed. What's real is real. If anyone thinks it's a choice, then I'd ask him (or her) one question: "When did you CHOOSE to be straight?" If you you can honestly say that you made a choice, you'll be one of the rare ones. If you realize that some people are born gay, left-handed, blue-eyed, or with birthmarks, and that these were sometimes considered "marks of the devil," you'll be a lot further ahead with getting on with the task at hand. We're in a war for nine years now in two countries, and we're booting out crucial interpreters and skilled specialists because we're afraid of who may get to share equally in the rights and responsibilities everyone is fighting for? Just get over it. Dismissed.
- —Guest Queer AF Brat
DADT religious based responces
- Last time I checked there was seperation of church and state for a reason. I gladly fight for people to have freedom to believe it whatever they want however if u want to hold up freedom of religion. We can't let any religious group demand other people not of there religion live by their code of ethics. It's the same as a Muslim saying someone else is an infeldel and blowing up others because of religious diffences. U are trying to force others into ur beliefs only differnece is they use fear and death and you are all trying to use the law even though the constituion protects everyones rights even of people u don't agree with. I am not saying you shouldnt stand up for what you believe in. Just that you tolerate the differences in others.
- —Guest Seperation
it is the right thing to do...NOT
- I have been in for 17 years and had planned on retiring from the service but with all this gay crap I will gladly leave before. I am sick of this agenda where the homosexual community is forcing the rest of us to bow to their wishes, destroy the natural ordered of humanity from within, and completely humiliate what the Man and Woman stand for. Has anyone noticed that male and female by nature were designed to be together? Whether your atheist, satanic, Christian, Muslim, etc. where does man and man fit, or woman and woman? If you say the anus is good for the man and some other item is good for the woman you’re a misguided ignorant moron. This is treason to the species and nature, and don’t even try to tell me this is perfectly naturel and ok BECAUSE IT IS NOT!!! Debate me on this and I promises you I will humiliate you, and expose the lies you have come to believe are true. Call me homophobic traitor, and I will destroy the very fabric of your consciousness. Benefits for gays, domesti
- —Guest 17 years still in
HOMOSEXUAL CONDUCT IN THE US ARMED FORCE
- MARRIAGE, HOMOSEXUALS, AND SOCIETY/ HOMOSEXUAL CONDUCT IN THE US ARMED FORCES By Dr. T. E. Rutstein (No copyright claimed. For free distribution to all media.) There is no such thing as a homosexual; nor is there such a thing as a heterosexual. There are only people who do homosexual acts or heterosexual acts. Language is distorted sometimes as we say someone is a criminal, as if it's the same as saying he's a male or female, or black or white. Big difference in reality, but papered over by sloppy thinking and speaking. Saying a person is a saint is not the same thing as saying he is Chinese or is 7 feet tall. We must distinguish between physical, scientific conditions of being, and what people DO. This is important to keep in mind, before we look at homosexual conduct, marriage and the armed forces A. HOMOSEXUALITY AND MARRIAGE Marriage is not for the married couple. It is for the survival of society. We don’t even care if the couple likes each other. All we ask is that they
- —Guest jean
Who cares?
- If someone can please answer that.....who cares? I served in the military and I knew some people who were gay (although, not openly). Would it be hurting me if they were to serve openly? Hell no! Would it hurt me if their partners got the same benefits as me? Hell no! Everyone has their OPINION about this matter, and it is just that, an OPINION! You wouldn't want anyone telling you how to live, who to love and who to marry. Why should you do the same to others? What gives you the right? As someone stated earlier, you are not their judge. I say let gays serve openly and let their partners have the benefits......who cares?
- —Guest An Army Wife and Veteran
U.S.Navy (RET)
- Look, I get sick of hearing that Queers are born that way! Hogwash! Are you born a mechanic or an airplane pilot or a homemaker or a janitor etc I was NOT born a carpenter, I was exposed to it and took to it and LEARNED !!! These things must be learned, not born w/it. You NOTHING coming into this world you have to be spanked to get to start to breath and you have to learn to walk and to talkm and the more youi are expeose to something that is what YOU LEARN to do!!! So stop stinking trying to justifey your perversion. This world started w/ONE man and ONE woman! That is the acceptable way. But you know, all you have to do is stop doing what you are doing and return to the days when you were learning good things. OK The biggest fact is JUST this: Homosexuals don't multiply, they always recruit!!!
- —Guest Homer
Replace "Gay" with any other group title
- If you were to replace the word "gay" with any other group title "White", "Black", "Catholic" or "Muslim" would we be having this discussion? No, of course not! If an individual has rights, whether recognized by a state or federally, the military is honor-bound to uphold those rights, including benefits for significant others be it by marriage or civil union. However until such a time as current policies and discrimination is ended this is a moot point. As for the moral/ethic issue, I’m married with two children; I’ve served for 14 years AD and had two gay roommates in that time. What I’ve seen is these members sacrifice more for their country than anyone else I’ve served with. Not only were they prepared to sacrifice their lives, but they did sacrifice their living in order to serve a nation and service that vilified them. Let them serve openly and with pride.
- —Guest Tolerance
I am sick!
- Mr Gates you have erred in your judgement! I have served in and on commads that have queers Nothing gay about homosexuals)and I will tell you that it is perverse! Has anyone ever told you how it really is where two queers get caught making out in an officer stateroom or the facts that i remember one dying due to a homosexual affiar? No this is never told, I will NOT be politically coorect to say it is OK! It is NOT OK and queers do NOT belong in and military unit! There must be unit cohesion and that does NOT ghappen w/ any unit that has queers! DON"T tell me unless you have served in/on a unit of any kind and KNOW what you are talking about! I have seen them and what they do and how they do it, they (Homosexuals) destroy unit cohesion and military readiness! IF you don't like that know this, God is NOT haoppy with Homosexuals as in Romans 1:26-27! So the only hope is to seek Jesus Christ and come out from that Homosexual mess and get right w/God! Then you will have help that will
- —Guest Homer
Absolutely not!
- so we have to put up with them in service, but shouldn't some things be a reward for doing it God's way?
- —sharond368
Benefits ?
- It is clear that a spouse receives benefits because of their legal status. Singles with partners do not get these benefits so neither should Same sex partners.
- —Guest R.T.McPherson
Gay partnership
- I think that if that relationship is legally documented that they should get the same benits as a traditional married couple. Just cause a man is gay doesnt mean that hes not in love and cares about the well being of his partner. And if they are together legally why shouldnt his partner be taken care of while hes away or be at his bed side if hes wounded?? Would you deny a heterosexuals wife the right to sit by her husband if she was rather masculan, of course not. Gay or not people shouldnt be denied to support and have a normal amily life just like every one else.
- —Guest Kaitlyn
Retired Devid Dog
- We are fighting a war. This whole issue retracts from the mission. This socialized agenda by the current administration has to stop somewhere. The American people as a whole doesn't want this mess. November is not here soon enough.
- —Guest No way
Retired USAF AMMO Troop Says...
- I've served twenty-one years in our Air Force. I've worked with gays during the Don't Ask/Tell (DADT) era. I have an openly gay stepdaughter and she has an openly gay aunt. However, I feel DADT repeal will be a morale and discipline disaster and will negatively polarize our Air Force culture. US ARMY LTG Benjamin Mixon had the fortitude to take a stand on retaining Don't Ask/Don't Tell by encouraging those who are opposed to repeal to write their elected representatives and be heard. Finally, Gay/Straight/Whoever: Thanks For Serving!
- —AMMOWill
what about the children
- I was wondering, where do the children come in? Surely some of the benefits are targeted at attracting servicemen's children to the forces, so why give equal benefits to gay spouses surely this is ad marketing? What about the next generation of troops.
- —Guest wondering
No Sir
- Simply put, No. I do not think gay partners should receive benefits. I fight for my Country, my Freedom, and my Religion. i do not believe in gay marriage and that it should be upheld anywhere in the USA. If someone can show me in the bible that gay marriage is right then and only then i might change my mind.
- —Guest Sgt
