- If you look at the fitness testing the standards change as you age. They go down. Now this may not seem important until you are try to out run a bullet or drag your friend out of harms way. Age doe bring exsperance however this can get in the way. In the military every on starts at the beginning just because you made six figures and had 20 employees does me you get to be in charge. Someone else has put the time in on the job and learned the skills to do the job. When I was active duty a lot of Officers had education and high fitness levels but no people skills. They looked down on the people under them. At forty do you really want to start at the bottom and spend 8-10 years working your way up to middle management. Everyone can't be a boss.
- —Guest Renee
- I was involuntarily separated from the Army 6 months ago. And life has been hell for me as I am a single mom and was discharged when my son was just 2 months old. Now yall on here bitching about age limits and medical restrictions BUT that's almost anywhere, as Cpt. America stated TIME wears away your BODY! If you have a medical issue that DQ's you, you gotta deal with it! How can you fight for our country if you're sick rather it be in the brain or not?? I'm just sayin! I suffered a phase of depression for months after being involuntarily separated because I enjoyed having a purpose and standing for something. Being a soldier meant a lot to me rather I f'd up or not. My stupid choices has no judgement on what that uniform meant to me! I would love to get back in the Army, but guess what? I CAN'T! I am a SINGLE PARENT! So whine about something that really sucks not something you can't help!
- —Guest Former Service Member
- I think the standards are a little tough on single parents. Although I agree that the army is no place for a single parent i think they should have more options for those who have a child with both parents present but not married to each other. I want to enlist but it's almost impossible for me because technically i am a single parent and that is unacceptable in the army. I have no plans on getting married or giving full custody to someone else in my family. Those are my only two options if I want to enlist. :/ I feel they should have more options for people in my position.
- —Guest ivy y.
Time for Change
- It's time for a change for our U.S. military. There don't ask don't tell policy is so ignorant its disgusting. It makes me ashamed I call this my home. I can't say I'm gay because they'll ASSUME that means we're engaging in sexual activity. If I said I was straight would they ASSUME the same thing?? you know what they say about making assumptions... makes an ASS outta YOU AND ME. It needs to change because that's a load of crap.
- —Guest Christy Moore
- In response to Captain America's comment. He claims to be a recruiter, damn, he surely has bad manners, I wonder whether he learned bad manners in the army. His comments are right, but he says so in a very rude manner, I feel sorry for the people he has recruited.
- —Guest Adan
just about right
- i want to join the usmc as a lifelong career it would be nice to be able to join with just a ged and go to military college after joining
- —Guest bennett
- People always wanna change rules to exempt themselves or think they are better/smarter. I trust our military and current age/fitness standards to be spot on. If you're too old to join, by God find other constructive ways to help our USA, starting first within yer own household and local community, and never stop learning. If you are within age limit & reading these posts stop hesitating & go sign up.
- —Guest mary ms. fix-it
- I am 16 and declared bipolar. This accusation was decided when I was 8 years old. For this I am automatically disqualified and non eligible to join the army. I haven't shown signs of this condition for years. Have not been to a counselor in years, but still I am told I have next to no chance. You have no idea how much joining the military means to me. The number of Americans diagnosed with this condition are rapidly increasing. Even ages as young a 6. So yes the requirements in this specific area are to strict.
- —Guest austyn wilcoxson
Complex, but fair and needful
- Ahh, the vapid ignorant complaints of internet posters, cloaked in annonimity! "I'm too old! I'm too fat! I'm mentally ill! I have six nipples that drip motor oil, but I'm patriotic!" This is nothing more than a free for all bitch session from the masses of people that are disqualified for military service. Listen, your disqualification isn't unjustified because you claim you can do pushups at 60 like a 20 year old, or can still ruck march at 35% body fat. YOU ARE A FINANCIAL LIABILITY TO THE INTERESTS OF THE US GOVERNEMNT! We don't take 60 year olds because they would represent unprecidented VA claims, when they suddenly have all the medical issues of the population demographic. NONE of you are going to be 20 at 40. We have AGE limits because TIME deteriorates your BODY. I'm glad you are in great "shape" at 50, but you are 50! It DOES stink. I agree. I am an officer recruiter, and it's too bad sometimes. Hey, if you are a doctor you can still commission in your late 50s!
- —Guest Captain America
- What would disqualify me off army force? How well a criminal record effect enlistment? If i'm in JROTC does that effect enlistment?
- —Guest luis concha
- If age alone is an issue, then military personnel should be dismissed at the cutoff age. If you cannot be valuable to the military after age 35, then there should be no NCOs above the age 35. Your are 35, you're OUT! There is no rationale. People can join at 18 and be out in a few years, so the longevity argument doesn't make sense either. I think it is short-sighted to use age alone to discriminate. They are not getting some good people who have already spent time serving in public safety and other occupations and have developed good people skills and an even temperment. They would probably be less prone to depression and suicide than the average 18 year-old recruit. They would probably be more dependable than the average 18 year-old recruit. I have heard that retirement is an issue because you can't attain retirement by the mandatory age of 60 if you join after 40, but folks who want to join don't care. It would save money, anyway. Stick to physical and mental standards.
- —Guest I'mJustSayin'
To leinient on drug use.
- I honestly think their drug use standards should be stricter. Any hard drug should automatically DQ you, especially for LSD. As for marijuana, id say any use over 2 times should call for a DQ.
- —Guest Matt
Age restrictions are too tough
- I think the age limits are unnecessary. The idea is that you have to retire by age 60 with a minimum of 20 "creditable" years of experience. If an older person can pass the medical screening and the fitness tests then they should be allowed to enlist on a contract that specifies "not retirement eligible" and let those people decide for themselves if they want to serve without that future benefit. It's easy to open your own IRA retirement account and not have to depend on the gov't for retirement. There are plenty of other benefits to enlist for. People in their 40's and 50's can often work more efficiently than people in their early 20's. I do understand the other side of it though. The fact that a 19 year old will take orders without question much easier than a 39 year old would. Younger people can work long hours with little sleep easier than SOME (but not all) older people too.
- —Guest Old Sarge
why i wanna go to the millatary.
- i want to go to the millatary, to help are usa, and it will staighten me out as a person.
- —Guest cathlene
- The rules for homeschool students being a tier two is unfair. My son scored a 69 on the ASVAB and only got to enter as a tier 2. Homeschool students have to get at least a 50 to even sign up. Now if he can get a 69 shouldn't he be placed at the same tier as others who get that score. Now he is fighting for this country.
- —Guest Kite