From the article: Air Force Enlisted Job Descriptions
Do you have experience in this Air Force enlisted AFSC? Share Your Experience
- Great job, no respect from officers, wanting willie P unloaded in the rain, But we played hard, from the RF-4's to the F-16's, don't know how a push-pull marker miss fired a 2.75 marker into a KFC sign off base twice, but it was a blast! Happened while doing EOR. Too slow on rank for some, unless you went under the table for the senior nco's, saw too many tools thrown into the trash when we went from F-4's to F-16's, same f"ing tools, $300.00 hammers, you could get at WalMart, $400.00 ratchets, great waste of American money. Then I get court martial for POT. For telling another airman where to go get it.
- —Guest Guest Shaw
- i was wondering if load toads was the nickname given for 462xx on the A-7D aircraft.....worked at england air force base from 76-78....great TDY's and a good job then....still working with the military after all these years
- —Guest loadtoad4ever
- Spent 24 years as a Weapons troop, sure there are better jobs but I wouldn't have changed it (my job) for anything. Met lots of good people and a few bad> I got everything I needed out of this job, by working hard and taking pride it what I did. For the most part we were a tight knit group we worked hard together and played equally as hard off duty. I am currently working as a Correctional Officer in the State of Alaska and proudly utilize my call sign and identifying number "462" when conversing over the radio at my current place of employment (prison). I am still in contact with fellow ex-462s and for the most part we all share a common bond because of our experiences both bad and good. Bottom line it is up to you to make the best out of your current position, job, or assignment. 462 forever!
- A gauranteed stripe out of basic training and base of choice had me on a flight to Lackland within 4-days of seeing the recruiter for the first time. Although I excelled at my job from the gitgo and was promoted below the zone to E-5 within 3-1/2 years, I found the job to be unfullfilling and extremely lacking in challenging ones ability. After 2 years buffing floors at Minot with an occasional alert bird change-out or ORI to remind us that there really was a purpose for the job, I got orders to Germany. Spangdahlem was a bit more dynamic with F4-D's-E's & G's and the conventional mission. However, the repetitve nature of the work really got to me and my off duty behaviour and activities went into hyper drive with alcohol and other means of "escape". Within days of getting an NCO of QTR Award and a F4 "incentive flight" to induce me to re-enlist, I sealed my fate with a tasteless stunt I pulled while TDY in Turkey. I was 60 days "short" at the time and was discharged as an A1C.
FORMER 462 "BAD ASS"
- 462 from 1977 to 1997 You better be a "Tough and/or a Smart Mother"? Or a Mother who can test good and make rank quickly? In order to deal with that 462/2W1 stuff for a full 20+ year career. Like I did. I who was a "Tough and a Smart Mother". And if you're not? You'll be a Broken Mother instead. Then finding yourself "out" of the Military and working at Subways, Radio Shack, or Walmart. After getting an early discharge from the Air Force. Unless you "Wimp-out" and "cross-train" into another Air Force Career Field? Like I saw many peoples do during my career. Because the 462 or 2W1 Career Field is tough depending on where you are stationed. Because the 462's/2W1's are the God Damn "BACK BONE" of the United States Air Force. !PERIOD. The United States Air Force that's "NOT" !powerful because it's a Global Cargo and/or a Global Passenger Air Force. !Those !not being the United States Air Force Chief, Key, or Greater Missions. The United States Air Forces Chief, Key, and Greater Mission w
- —Guest ANTONIO M MCCOY
- I was a weapons troop from 80-84 I agree with most what people who got the job wrote. I really loved doing the job and the guys I worked with I would keep their back till the day we die. most don't appreciate what we do or why we do it. Hell I don't even know why I just know I loved my times on the flightline as a numbers 2 3 man
- —Guest histeach
- I was was with the 559th TFS, Cam Ranh Bay, RVN 1 Apr '68 - 4 Nov '69. Load crew 9G. We set the "Munitions Record" of the day of 223 consecutive sorties without a malfunction (hanger). Previous record at the time was 78 by a crew in Thailand. I still have the Stars and Strips newspaper clipping. SSgt Robert Webster "Coach" (from Everett Wash) crew chief along with Vince Glasener (from McMinnville Tenn). I miss those great guys. Bob Sloan, Seaspray, Victoria, Australia
- —Guest Bob Sloan
- I was a 462 for 20 years. Worked everything from a B-52 to F-16. Weapons loaders work hard and played hard. We were respected on the flightline. The monthly load barn, the inspections, and the no quit attitude. If you was a 462 you know what I am talking about. We walked throught the the valley of death because we own it.
- —Guest jnalley
- 46250 on A-7D's. Wouldn't trade those 4 years for anything!
- —Guest JimL
- Weapons troops dont do as much as crew chiefs but there is still A LOT of work. The similie I like to use is, when you go sledding the fun part is going down the hill but then you have to walk all the way back up carrying the heavy sled just to go back down and have fun again. Well we are carrying the pilots sleds up the hill so they can go slide down it. We load everything so they can press a button and get medals. Not bitter though. Just know its a lot of 12 hour shifts. If you dont want to work outside in Rain, Snow, Heat then keep looking. If you do, then this is the job for you.
- —Guest loader
good job back when
- I started loading F 101s, F 102s, F 106s, ended up loading F 4s in Udorn Thailand and Yokota Japan. Weapons troop 462's were the elite on the flight line. I wouldn't take anything for the experiences. There is always someone who is going to complain, but that is life. I made E-5 in less than 3 years. I was proud then and I am proud now.
- I trained at lowery in 1987 then got Stationed At Davis-Monthan. Yes the Job has its up and downs. But you know what? I would not change it for the world. I had to Cross Train after my first enlisment, back then too many people were in that field. So I went into CE. Power Production. Now that was a blast as well. Both job put you in the eliments. Cold, hot, snow, rain. Just had to suck it up and move forward. Never looked for an award or pat on the back. Most be the new generation. i was a #2 man. In charge of the tools. LOl
- —Guest A-10
- For those of you that love this job like I do, thank you. For the others that think it sucks and thinks Weapons supervision just sit around maintaining programs, GROW UP!!! We all came in and worked our buts off. If you want out, then get out! If not stop complaining and many doors will open.
- —Guest 2W1 18YEARS
Great Job for Hard workers
- I love my job as a weapons troop and I work around a few troops that hate this job. I tell them like Ill tell you this is a good job because you make way more than minimum wage and you dont work as hard as some do in McDonalds. What are you really complaining about the long hours....I know people right now that are getting cut back, laid off, or cant find a job. What you dont wanna do a B-Man ..... For what Uncle Sam pays you I promise It wont hurt you to pull chocks or catch jets. Not really happy bout the hot/cold weather what was you really wanting in a millitary career.....a air conditioned room with a recliner and no one to give a damn about you Physical Conditioning? Get over it, Get to work, and Be greatful because you have it better than alot of people. I love this job but i hate working with Whiny ungreatful 18 and 19 year old brats. ok im off my soap box. lol
- —Guest Moore
- I really enjoyed my time as a bomb loader, I saw parts of the world I never would have had I not been one. Hard work never killed anyone! I trained at Lowery in 83 and went to the (Rock) Hahn, AB Germany what a great overall experience.
- —Guest samb
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