- I kind of have to laugh of some of the negative responses:
1) “A checklist to turn off the lights.” You know why there’s a checklist? Because you forgot to turn off the lights. Pretty simple logic there. So do you want the checklist? Or do you want the L.O.C. for lack of attention to detail and failure to conserve utilities? Better yet, do you want the L.O.C. when you signed off the checklist and still didn’t turn off the lights? Checklists are there to ensure everything gets done a certain way, in a timely manner. Because we’re prone to a mistake or two, if the lights get left on after the checklist was signed off, it probably was a simple mistake, but mistake you won’t make twice once you sign that paperwork. And don’t forget, it’s a checklist item because someone missed it, and your NCOIC got it in the neck by the building custodian.
2) “Measuring [filament] tape.” Go get your engineering degree and change it then, because someone with a 10lbs brain is who came up with it
- —Guest Shady Jay
- Sorry to hear so much negativity. I enjoyed my 20 + years as a Protective Equipment specialist (Supply) and then a Life Support Tech and on and on... It was a great job at the time, we were attached to flying squadrons and often had the opportunity to fly with the aircraft we supported. I had the opportunity to fly with B-52s and KC 135s at Castle AFB, F-4s in Kunsan, O-2's and OV-10s in Weisbaden and Sembach, H-3's and CH-53's Osan and Sembach, and all the heavy lift A/C from C-130s, 141s, C-5 and on and on. At Castle we even had Prop A/C like 117, DC-3s.
I believe you get out of the job what you put into it. You may not have the same opportunity to fly that we had in the past, but there are still ways to get up. Learn all there is to learn, never quit learning, and apply that knowledge in a positve way. Don't forget what you feel is in need of change and when you acquire rank, put your plans into place and don't complain... fix it.
There is life after the Air Force....
- —Guest Andre Leamons
- NO! we do NOT FLY!!! You just inspect and clean helmets when you are in flying sq. If your not assigned to a flying sq you are in the OSS and you will pack emergency parachutes, or blow up rafts to see if theres holes in them. You will also be forced to do really dumb shit like remove all AA batteries from NVG battery packs because people think they will explode. You will also measure tape, and count flashes on strobe lights. You will come in the morning and fill out a checklist saying you turned on the lights etc. then do it again before you leave. The job is incredibly easy and very lame. The aircrew know that your job sucks so they always say "thanks for what you do for us"..some shyt youd say to a guy whos got a horrible job like cleaning shitters or somthing. This job seriously sucks. If you want a flying job choose a 1A AFSC. If you want to carry a gun you can stay in SF or go to EOD. OR.....you can wait until women are allowed into battlefield airman afscs. you will regret AFE!!
Do you guys fly
- I'm currently an SF troop and looking to retrain into another career field where I still get to carry a weapon, however, the AF has limited options for females. All of that is irrelevant to my actual question.
Is this the career field where you actually get to fly around with your a/c? Or do you guys just do inspections before and after take off?
- —Guest B
So many comments
- I read all of the comments and I'm personally horrified by the lack of respect most have had. As a Superintendent it's my duty to educate and correct where I see an injustice...and there have been pleny in this conversation. First impressions are lasting...I hope that my comments are the first to be read and not the others. 1. Lead by example. 2. Take care of those that can't take care of themselves. 3. Don't have others do what you won't. 4. RESPECT.
The voices of a few are not the same of the many. Collectively, we are AFE!! The Last To Let You Down!! I'm probably the best Stitch Bitch you've ever seen...and You can wipe the spit out my mask any day! :)
- —Guest Zoomie!!
- Ive hated this job since the first day of tech school its very repetitive and stupid boring the pilots should have to inspect there on shit i should've joined the army.
- —Guest AFE
Wrong ASVAB Score
- The ASVAB score for Aircrew Flight Equipment is M-40. As of 31 July 2013
- —Guest joeycool
- This job is not for everyone. if you joined looking for a challenge or training for a job on the outside, it's def not for you. However, if you want a pay check and just coast for 20 yrs and retire this is perfect. (if you can stand the repetition) I personally hate the job, it can easily done by high school kids who need a part time job. I'm taking advantage of my situation and using my time here to complete my degree. I'd agree with anyone who says where you are stationed will make or break it for you... being stuck at one base for 6 years pretty much broke me. I might have a differen't view on the job if I were to experience working in in/with a differen't air frame.
- —Guest Mr. Clean
- What score do you need to become in this position? (Aircrew equpiment)
- —Guest Junior
- The job really isn't all that bad. It's very easy but boring. It all depends on the people or what base you get stationed at. The base can make or break you. My first station ruined it for me. I've been working this job for two years and all I hear about is old NCO's complaining about the merger or "the glory days" It makes it hard to like your new job when all you hear is complaining from your leadership. Negativity is contagious. I'm looking for anyway to get out right now.
- —Guest AFE
Stop complaining and do your job!
- Too many complainers. Your in the Air Force we have it made. If you don't like this job then take your high school diploma and get a job flipping burgers.
- —Guest Really?
- This is the job for you! IF..you like getting screwed, working with a bunch of idiots and negative people. This is a good starting point for a career airman. This career field has the lowest score requirement in the USAF to make rank. What this means is that if you didn't make staff sergeant the first time testing you are an idiot. There are lots of idiots out there, some that take 8 years to make e-5. What a joke.
- —Guest Ha
Eats their own
- It is very true that life supporters eat there own. You have SNCOs who do nothing but make life terrible for their Airmen. There is a reason that the two SNCOs (TW) (RH)in my flight are both divorced and have produced a terrible working environment. Simply put they suck as people but mostly as leaders. They do a terrible job fighting for their people and only look out for themselves. The air force did a terrible job merging the two career fields. they took out the 1Ts from the flying squadrons which made some upset and took out the maintenance folks from their way of life. They should have left it as is. The point I'm making is that this job can be great but depends on your leadership. It is true that this is a monkeys job, in the fighter world the old school fighter pilots love us. The new ones could care less. In the heavy world the aircrews could care less about us. There is a lot of BS with this job i.e. UCIs, ORIs, TCTOs. It is time to get out of this career field. Off to Intel
- —Guest time to go
Good with the bad I guess...
- I had about 6 months in SE prior to the merge and it was one of the greatest experiences I have known. We had the work hard play hard attitude and we would finish the work early and take care of our people in the shop. Once the merger took full swing, everything went to shit. Excuse my French before, but the whiny undisciplined 1T's have nothing better to do than to eat their own. There's nothing worse than walking into a shop you feel unwelcome in. I have come to terms with the fact there is nothing to make this job enjoyable considering it takes a retarded monkey who can pass the ASVAB which requires scores lower than that of Security Forces. I'm sorry, but nobody in this career is deserving of that "I save lives everyday" ego because at the end of the day, we are a car wash shop to make pilots feel better about the equipment they never wear once they are in flight. Congrats on making yourselves feeling important in one of the lowest qualified jobs ever.
- —Guest Soon to be Weather
old school 52230A
- 4 great years,2 in puerto rico 2 rapid city SAC AF all the way 8th AF would do it all again