- I kind of have to laugh of some of the negative responses:
1) “A checklist to turn off the lights.” You know why there’s a checklist? Because you forgot to turn off the lights. Pretty simple logic there. So do you want the checklist? Or do you want the L.O.C. for lack of attention to detail and failure to conserve utilities? Better yet, do you want the L.O.C. when you signed off the checklist and still didn’t turn off the lights? Checklists are there to ensure everything gets done a certain way, in a timely manner. Because we’re prone to a mistake or two, if the lights get left on after the checklist was signed off, it probably was a simple mistake, but mistake you won’t make twice once you sign that paperwork. And don’t forget, it’s a checklist item because someone missed it, and your NCOIC got it in the neck by the building custodian.
2) “Measuring [filament] tape.” Go get your engineering degree and change it then, because someone with a 10lbs brain is who came up with it
- —Guest Shady Jay
- Sorry to hear so much negativity. I enjoyed my 20 + years as a Protective Equipment specialist (Supply) and then a Life Support Tech and on and on... It was a great job at the time, we were attached to flying squadrons and often had the opportunity to fly with the aircraft we supported. I had the opportunity to fly with B-52s and KC 135s at Castle AFB, F-4s in Kunsan, O-2's and OV-10s in Weisbaden and Sembach, H-3's and CH-53's Osan and Sembach, and all the heavy lift A/C from C-130s, 141s, C-5 and on and on. At Castle we even had Prop A/C like 117, DC-3s.
I believe you get out of the job what you put into it. You may not have the same opportunity to fly that we had in the past, but there are still ways to get up. Learn all there is to learn, never quit learning, and apply that knowledge in a positve way. Don't forget what you feel is in need of change and when you acquire rank, put your plans into place and don't complain... fix it.
There is life after the Air Force....
- —Guest Andre Leamons
In tech training...
- I am in tech school for this career right now and i graduate this thursday (May 3, 2012) i already love this job.
- —Guest jdg89
1971 -1992 That Others May Live HQ ARS
- I am proud to say that I was one of the life supporters from (History now) the past. When I entered the career field I was stationed at Castle AFB, we came under Supply working with individual equipment. Then it was personal equipment, and eventually Aircrew Life Support. As some of the folks who have posted comments infer, we did enjoy a certain closeness with the crews who flew. We had more than just "wipe and clean helmets, loading and unloading A/c, providing training like survival, ejection seats, parachuting, water - desert - artic - and mountain survival, we had a full plate then. I can only imagine the changes that are in place now. I was glad to fly with all the aircraft we serviced along with the crews we worked with. I am still proud of our contributions to the field, mine included the HEEDS Bottle and NVG's in the AF Cockpit to name a couple. From Viet Nam to Desert Storm I was able to see many changes, I hope to see more positive changes in the future too.
- —Guest Richard Cranium aka Andre Leamons
- The job requirements state you have to have normal color vision... not true. im in this job because im colorblind. as im sure there are a few others like me.
- —Guest rigger
- Most bases have AFE... All flying bases have our career field
- —Guest Me
- Does anybody have any idea what other bases have the job Aircrew Flight Equipment? I know Lauglin does because that is where I am going.
- —Guest Falcon2122
- Stop whining and get into the game. I've spent time in your former field of so called greatness. The truth is, you have a mindset that your job is important and you need to take care of your pilots. Yeah I said your pilots because that's how most of you feel. You treat them as babies that need your full attention. You feel that you are more important than the pilots and most of you have this ego trip that your smarter and more important than the pilots, anybody can fly. Truth is they treat you guys as there maid/butler. Your there to serve them and they have no real care for you. They know you have it easy, so they make your job difficult. They can handle the small things like looking over their equipment and telling if something is broke or missing, they can clean up after themselves. But why when you have a 1T at the ready. You guys have to go to special training like water survival and jump school to take you job serious. That's bull! Just do your job. Been there done moved on, MXS.
- —Guest OG-MXS
So far so good
- I have this career field and I've been operational Air Force (finished bmt and tech) for 3 months. I'm with a C-130 unit so we work with almost every piece of equipment. Most of my shop has went on many exciting Tdy's, they deployed, and been to SERE, water and land survival schools. The only negative thing I've noticed about this career is the repetitiveness of some of the equipment we inspect.
Evevntually I may crosstrain into an aircrew job or switch branches and do something more combat relative. Until then I'm going to try to take advantage of all the Tdy's and deployments.
- —Guest Newbie
Response to Guest TE
- By the way I AM a former 1T, I got to see both sides with the merger, I saw how unorganized LS was, the SE flight was more structured and had better training. The work ethic and skills I learned from them helped me be a better 1P w/ better T.O knowladge and a maintenance mindset. I then saw how pathetic the old LS shop was, im not saying every LS guy sucks or anything, there are several good ones I met. the good ones usually like the merger. But ive seen too many NCOS/SNCO 1Ts that hardly know enough about their job to get by, that has discredited anything the LS career field has to say, and as a far as combat jumps into the AOR, nice kill in pakistan the other day, was that a LS guy too, really doubt that buddy. Im not saying dont have pride in your 1T stuff, just accept that we needed the merger to happen, it helps both career feilds out. I didnt know pilots paid more attn to guys in flt stuits cuz id be distracted thinking what a f@g. Best choice said it best...cut and dry good job
- —Guest Guest TE
- This is a great job; coming from someone who went to college and decided to join the air force on a whim. I have been doing this for 4 years now and have been to 3 bases. Kunsan, Misawa, and now Ramstein. I have worked on multiple Airframes from fighters and now to heavies. Both have there ups and downs, Fighters are awesome because the shop is a lot smaller than most and there is great comradarie, heavies are kind of the lower end as far as AFE goes, you have to worry about "PAX" compared to Fighters where this only one pilot and maybe a CSO. If you want to travel this is the Job for you, I grew up in the States and have only been back a few times since 2007. I enjoy being overseas, when I was at Misawa we went TDY a lot. The simple fact was that wherever the F-16's went, someone from our shop had to go with them. I have had plenty of opportunities in this career field, yes SERE is one and Water Survival the other. Only Two years left and I'm sad to be leaving this awesome career.
- —Guest Best Choice Ever.
Response to GuestTE 3 PRIDE in AFSC
- Proud being a 1T. I have done my time and will be retiring because these Survival Guys don't know how to run a flight. I know some are great but most are horrible. The bottom line is former 2A's need to stop having the mindset "well back in maintenance" because you or not in MXS anymore. As for deployments, when did SE guys ever deploy? Life support guys were deployed all the time taking care of pilots, that was a main reason for the merge "to lessen the burden on those LS guys always deployed" There was never a reason for SE to deploy. You pack parachutes and rafts that were good for atleast 4 months, why would you have to come out to the sand box? Truth is before the merger you never deployed. What "skills" would you use in the field? Sewing stripes for people that got promoted and no alteration shop around?We will continue to wear our flight suits with pride and work hard and party even harder. "That others may live to return with honor because we are the last to let you down" LS!
- —Guest Guestgray
Response 2 to GuestTE
- (Flt suits contd) I have been a trainer to the aircrews at 4 different bases now and have been instructed by leadership to always wear a flight suit. Studies have shown that the aircrew pay attention MORE to someone in a flight suit rather than someone in BDU/ABU's. Hence 4MO's (physiologists) wear them when instructing. As for being an equipment tech, I never denied I wasn't; I simply stated there are many opportunities in this career field compared to others. The merge may have allowed us to be a "complete expert" but many LIFE SUPPORT guys enjoyed dropping off rafts and chutes to "SURVIVAL" and having you do all the work because in the end LIFE SUPPORT guys ended up with the credit and got all the awards and incentive flights while "Survival" was still the red head step child of MXS and a part of FAB flight which most units dont care for. Ops doesn't like them and MXG doesn't care for them either, AMXS are the ones loved. Sewing an engine cover/stripes for others did not matter.
- —Guest Guestgray
response to guestTE
- When you say that SV-80 and airborne are not a part of the job it clearly shows you were formerly a 2A (stitch b****) The reason we go to survival school is to gain better appreciation of the equipment that the persons in harms way may have to use it someday and to realize how important our equipment really is. Secondly the reason we go to airborne and freefall is simply for quality assurance. Wouldn't you rather have someone pack your chute that actually uses it for themselves once in awhile? Secondly when I was assigned to STS I had duties that fell out of the career field such as drop zone controller and coxswain duties. If you look at job openings on Equal Plus you will see that it tells you that you will be doing other things than AFE (being correct not calling it life support). And yes I did have to jump in the AOR to be a drop zone controller; thankfully I went to school and could do it. As for wearing a flight suit, you have obviously never been a trainer before.
- —Guest guestgray
RESPONSE TO LS IS BEST
- Let me start by reminding you that SERE,Airborne,wearing flt suits to work is not part of the job. The merge is the best thing that happened to both career fields. The SE guys get to deploy and use their SKILLS in the field, and LS gets to learn more discipline and how to work in an organized fashion. Stop telling people that LS is about jumping out of planes and being in STS because it's NOT. Be honest with yourself, you are an equipment tech and that's it. The merege now allowed you to be a complete expert on the eqpt you work on, not just being able to look at somthing and say it's broke (anyone could do that), or put sunscreen in bags. Take pride your AFSC is pushing for higher standards. You went from being the equivilant of an auto-mechanic that only washes windows, to a full service station. Be happy. The excuses such as "we have to work around a schedule" doesn't fly in MXS...LS needed the more regimented skills of MXS in their lives. Come on man. Take off the flt suit and work
- —Guest TE