From the article: New Air Force Fitness Test
The Air Force Chief of Staff has approved several changes to the Air Force Physical Fitness Test (AFPFT). Do think they are on the right track? Share Your Thoughts
Response to - Define Fitness
- SSgt FUAF, I too am 6'1" and weigh in at 255 lbs. and considered obese. I also played college ball, bench 450 and squat 725 and can run the 1.5 in around 9:30 on a bad day; my average is 9:13-9:20. I also do a bit of MMA and boxing on the side when I have some free time. Somehow when I step up to the line and get measured my 40 size waist fails. Please tell me though why an officer whom looks 60 lbs over weight, fat nasty, double the waist size can pass but the fail me? And to Clark, fake name of course, I was in the Army and et punks like you as a meal. I was in the 2nd Ranger BN based at Joint Base Lewis-McChord. You want to sound big and bad on here, make the Army look better than the Air Force, I sir challenge you to join the Rangers a real man's Army.
- —Guest TSgt FUAF
It's not that hard
- So the air force test is not too bad. We need to put in less time than other services. The higher ups want you to look good in uniform and be healthy. You may or may not deploy but if you do you will be thankful to have endurance. A 39 inch waist is not unachievable no matter your stature. If you are a big burly guy that is cut and still have over a 39 then that is what waivers are for. However if you are a overweight and not really putting forth effort you will not lose weight. 3-5 days of working out is good if you actually put forth effort. However, if you go out and barely perform as I see so often at PT sessions you are not really working out. Diet is huge and too many people put faith in supplements. They have a lot of calories and if you are not doing the proper amount of training in response to what you take then they are adding calories to the already finite amount you can have to maintain or lose weight. In closing, eat healthy, work hard, make no excuses and enjoy your day.
- —Guest Cyber guy
- Don't complain about your weight and the Air Force. I am 6 feet and broad shoulder, with a waist size of a 38. I am training myself and losing weight for the Air Force PT. So here is some advice. Don't wait to do the PT in basics, but instead get started before you go to BMT.
- —Guest Austin Snyder
Isn't the Same Air Force
- That's one of the biggest reasons I retired. When I first joined the Air Force it was the best kept secret and I would have served 5 more years, now it's full of wanna be soldiers and wanna be Marines who think they are some day going to the front lines. News Flash you are not Infantry , aromored or Airborne, and you will never go beyond the wire into combat. If you desire combat and PT then get out of the Air Force and Join the branches who do this, and quit screwing up the Air Force with this BS PT . Suck up That.
- —Guest Retired
THE PT TEST JUST SUCKS
- Wake up Air Force........if someone performs their job well above the standard and contributes to the mission 110%, but cannot pass a PT test by virtue of a second too slow, 1 situp too little or 1 pushup too little.....not to mention all of the problems with the abdominal circumference measurement.....the system is flawed. While Airmen.....or captain Snuffy can just get by, just meet the minimum standard, pass the PT test and be kept in. Also, the PT test should be job specific. A physician should not be held to the same standard as a PJ or security forces, or those going outside of the wire. Morale in the Air Force already sucks, so if a different standard for different jobs ticks off people and incites a double standard......tough shit......Morale will still suck.
- —Guest Major Colon
- I got an 89.5 on my fitness test and it was because they measured my waist at a 37. the lowest I have every got on my waist is 35!
- —Guest whoah nelly
- I lost over 150 lbs before I joined the airforce, the smallest my waist has ever been was 36 inches. This was with running 3 miles a day, and eating one meal a day. Now I fractured my spine, and my hip which puts me on a profile. I can't run, do situps, or pusups but I exercise EVERY day. I can bench over 250lbs, and don't have a problem walking for an extended period of time. The reason I keep failing my test is because I lost so much weight that my waist is still too big, and combined with the not as active lifestyle. The measurements only work for people who: Haven't had a surgery. Weren't pregnant. Didn't lose a tremendous amount of weight. Don't have large hips. Don't have fat naturally sent to their core. Don't have waist deformities. Didn't eat too much the day prior. Don't retain a lot of water weight. The list goes on. Visceral fat may cause heart attacks, but so does stress and we don't measure for that. It's a stupid illogical argument.
- —Guest Airman
- I'm tired of the whiners. 99% of the "big crowd" are just fat. Follow the height/weight charts and your waist will magically be manageable. Don't think for a second that being in excellent shape doesn't help you in all areas of your life: personal, mentally, job etc. Most of the time it's just the dog pulling against the leash. Stop thinking about it as "forced to do it" and do it for your own personal good.
- —Guest Ummmm ok
- The same people kicking you out are the same people that are on permanent profile, will never take a test again and are praised because their age group is leading the way in passing. This program is just another program developed by the two headed monster to ensure the continuation of pathetic leadership and yes men. All those that work well over a standard work week...Get out, there is room for you in the civilian sector, your squadron CC doesn't care about you or anything but his own career. Get out and actually serve the US by working towards bettering the economy and living condidtions
- —Guest Guest AF
Suck it up!
- There is a better way of doing the pt test. However as it has always been the military will not and cannot pull its head from its ass. Now to all you airmen who can't pass the pt test, time to grow the hell up wipe the sand from your clit and get out there and hit it hard. I struggle with my weight and pt scores just as much as you and I am a PJ. And no they are not on the right track with the fitness program.
- —Guest Genious
Just get fit
- Stop feeling sorry for yourself, if you failed an af pt test then sorry bout it. The Air Force is on a good track with their pt test you joined the military to be fit to fight your in the Air Force your probably not gonna be front line of anything but yet you complain about bein fit to fight. If you failed you should prob. push yourself harder next time unless you failed because of your waist limit which even then if your doin the right things you can slim that down too
- —Guest Sorry
AF PT test Driscrimination
- Since when is it ok to discriminate on age or gender! My last test as a male under 30: 50 PU, 1.5 mile in 11:52, 35" waist but only 38 situps. I fail. I've never understood how the AF can say that I'm less fit to fight than the 40+ female (or anyone else) who is held to a lesser standard in my same career. Am I really less fit to fight than someone who does half of what I did but scores an excellent because of their age or gender? or is this whole thing a pile of crap. Maybe they should consider pt testing by career requirements as opposed to discriminating based on gender and age
- —Guest Not F2F
- i like how you put that, getting idiots thru that can do 100 pushups a min and getting smart people kicked out, well the balance of that is having all these book smart folks premote cause they can take tests well and dont know anything about their jobs, and these same dummies that know and can do the job better than these book smart people get higher tenured or get left behing by the book smart people that cannot even supervise their people
- —Guest af force beast
Try being not fit to fight... medically
- I just had my third surgery in less than a year (neck and back) and am over 20 years of service. Yet I'm on my third failure for PT (waist only) that I can't pass because I'm hypothyroid. Someone tell me where it's written that you can end up being demoted while being medically retired because you literally can't pass the PT test for medical reasons. And my last test I was at 38"... I have to have 37.5 to pass. This testing process is wrong, it's discriminating against people that are tall and definitely not fair for folks that are medically broken. Granted, my commander shares the majority of the blame as they could have put me in for an MEB 3 failures ago. But I still wouldn't be passing my tests. Now, while I'm on convalescent leave, I have to go get in my WALKER, have someone drive me (since I'm two weeks out of surgery for a back fusion) in order to go get my waist measured again while I'm on Con. Leave. Don't walk away from the USAF... RUN
- —Guest Not fit to fight
- AF is a joke. Most females can't do 5 real pushups and get 39 minutes to run a mile and a half. They pass and move on. Men do 50 real pushups and run 13 min and fail. Fit to Fight what??
- —Guest Sgt Disgruntled
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