Height has nothing to do with belly size
- The main complaint I see on here is that everyone is passing the Physical portion of the test with flying colors but failing the body comp test. What that is telling me is that people are not eating right. They love their pizza, pasta and beer. I am 47 years old and tried the fitness test just to see how I would stack up. I scored an 83. Everybody is saying that they are fit with a 39 inch abdominal measurement. I can tell you they are not. Sure they can lift a house and do a million push-ups and situps, but they are overweight. And being overweight leads to health issues such as heart disease, high blood preasure and high colesterol. Think about pro football players. DB's, RB's, WR's, and LB's are in a lot better physical condition than lineman because they are in better physical shape, and will probably live longer on average than the lineman do. Watch what you eat, work out and quit complaining...these standards are for your health not the Air Forces!!
- —Guest Retired AF Tech Controller
Training
- Way to easy have it harder especially for the mile run. Anybody can do that. The sit ups and push ups are to easy for the requirements.
- —Guest Grace
Both sides
- I put my real name because I have no problem discussing this. I have been in for 15 years and one thing I realize is that when people start talking about "looking professional” what they really mean is be Hollywood good looking, Seams a little too shallow to me. However, while our system is flawed it is better than before. Our leaders are making decisions that our killing careers. I was a 4 time failure at a waist of 39. I had to make a change in my life. I lost 55 lbs. and I am a new man. While I do not agree with waist minimums it is clear that even passing the minimum for me was not enough. I don't have the answers but my Commander makes me test once a quarter and if I fail just one of them I lose a stripe. I think that is generous and I am thankful that I am now passing my tests but I can't give up and I hope you all hang in there too! “Stay positive stay a winner!”
- —Guest TSgt Lynn
waist size
- its not that big of a deal to trim down the waist, just watch what you eat and work out a couple times a week. I myself stand 6'6", 190lbs and have a 31" waist.
- —Guest chris
This test is unintelligent...
- As an AF military wife with a masters degree, I can assure you that this test is unintelligent and mocks what the USAF stands for. If you're going to change the PT requirements, do so without the waist measurement which clearly does not indicate the actual health of the individual. This new test is a means to "lay off" airmen indiscriminately via the waist measurement. However, it does discriminate as you have individuals who are clearly not made to have a 39" waist. My husband has been killing himself working out everyday of the week EVEN on his overnight 14 hour shifts to pass this exam, but will fail due to his waist size. With no job, and student loans coming due (hmm recession anyone?), I'm not sure how we're going to make it when we're "discharged" due to his fourth failure. He's maxed out everything but the waist measurement EVERY time. And he feels like a failure even after cutting out everything but rabbit food. This is a disgrace to what the USAF once was.
- —Guest AF Wife soon to be civilian
Unbalance
- Why not make every block on the EPR meets or does not meet? Is the fitness AFI more important than any other?
- —Guest Macfit
test needs overhaul
- Just wondering how one standard waste measurement for all body types does not make the creators of this test look like idiots. How can one man who has a narrow body frame smaller bones etc. measure the same as another with extremely broad shoulders, enormous rib cage and huge bones. Im sorry it does not even make sense. One size fits all does not work in any sense of the word. Another issue are the civilian testers who have the power to discount pushups based on thier perception. Thier perception is different than that of the physical trainers at the gym, you can't even dispute thier determination. This test has some serious issues.
- —Guest afwf
EZ way to get the boot
- I read some poor SSgt is getting the boot after 8 yrs. Man is sounded like MAX BS, and it was all PT failures due to inproper waist measurements. Maybe this is a common problem, his weight was the same, but his waist varried from 38 to 44. Now how can one's weight stay the same and have a 6 inch waist difference? What happened to 1/4 in max difference? Is the AF just booting NCO's out based on this nonsense? By the way jobs are really had to come by out of the military, I MEAN REALLY HARD!
- —Guest AF Trim down
Timing is Everything
- Spent 8 mos recovering from torn meniscus and multiple tendon strains (sustained during combatives training vs a 220-pound instructor). Was on profile that prohibited me from carrdio involving my legs for 6 months followed by 2 months of no running. Was scheduled for 4 PT tests over a three month period (each the first available due to the FAC's, not my schedule), all weather cancelled. Finally got a test - EXACTLY 42 days after my profile expired - so suddenly I had to pass the run test. Despite running for 40 mins a day, four days a week, it is unsurprising that having been PROHIBITED FROM RUNNING FOR 8 MONTHS, I failed the component, and thus the whole test. Oh yeah, my performance eval was on an extension while FAC got their act together. It closes tomorrow, so it's a referral...no chance to retake, just permanent record in one shot. Had I failed in the first half of the rating period, I'd have got 2+ more chances 90 days apart to improve. Shoulda timed getting hurt better.
- —Guest Unfair Standard
make waist related to height
- I am 6-2, and have a 36 inch waist, but I find it unfair that a 5-0 male can have a 39 waist. I can never score a prefect 100 pt because of my waist. I think waist should be tied with height. What prevents that 5-0 airman from having a 39 waist. What a poster boy picture of our new air force. Now my buddy is 6-8 and has a 40 waist and he is screwed!! Compare a 6-8 and a 5-0 male with a 39 inch waist, one will not prevent a professional image, but I am seeing alot of the short stocky airman. Are we keeping just the short fat airman!!!!!!
- —Guest 36 waist can never get perfect pt
Measurments
- They should measure a woman's rear area! So many woman have excessive baggage and they don't look good in their uniforms...I'm not talkin the BaDonkaDonk I'm talkin cottage cheese rear!
- —Guest GKGuest
Really?
- You guys are complaining that you have to be physically fit to be in the MILITARY?!?!?!?!?!? You are supposed to be warriors not wussies. Sorry but if you don't think it's fair that you have to be physically fit then something is wrong with you not the system. Today's military, and all branches are included, is full of whiny cry babies! Just in case you were wondering yes I am a Veteran, 6 years of active duty.
- —Guest Joe Trainer
make pt test real
- If the AF leadership can kick out enough losers than things need to get hard, like max waist 36 male and 30 female. Air Force needs to add pull ups to PT test, make males due 4 min, after all we are the best service. Max would be 25 pull ups. Go Air Force!!! Did you know things like these are serious being considered.
- —Guest ex m
What next
- When the AF leadership want to get rid of more airman, what prevents them from passing a new stupid standard? Well now the 39 in max waist that don't look at height or body fat is based on who really knows! Next I predick a max waist of 38 in, then when manpower needs to be trimmed make it 37 in, gee get the picture. Mark my words!!!!!!!!!!
- —Guest Chucky
Flawed System
- 33 y/o SSgt, 11:07 1.5 mile run time, maxed out "proper" sit-ups & push-ups, scored 97.2....and FAILED the entire test for having a 40" waist....OH DID I MENTION I AM 6'6"? The AF PT TEST IS BS!!!! Yes I am a big guy, always have been. So now I am looking at a referral 3 and not being able to test. I have an untarnished career in the 12.5 years ive been in. (1 LOC when I was an A1C) I cant wait for my Congressman to respond to my complaint package.
- —Guest PT TEST IS FLAWED
