Changes to the Air Force Physical Fitness Test

Air Force PT Test = Stand up, sit down

Hows your haterade? haha

i think that is still too hard for the air force

It’s so disappointing to see people acting so disrespectfully to each other in such a great forum for information and support. But I think the changes are good, running (stamina and cardio) should account for more, while waist measurements (much more arbitrary) should be relaxed a bit as they don’t account for a person’s overall height.
While I feel that combat training would be a plus, each branch has it’s own strength, and the USAF has never been hand to hand combat branch… if they were, you wouldn’t need the Marine… which would make Marines very upset.

It’ll be interesting to see what all is changed and I’ll be waiting for that info.

Air Force PT Test = Lift 12oz name brand liquid a few feet off end table next to remote

Our Chief straight up told us that the only reason they even give us the test they do, instead of a combat test, is to keep our healthcare costs down; Fit to Fight is just a catch phrase. If they were truly concerned about combat readiness they’d put a lot more emphasis on muscle fitness and get rid of the waist (or at least very low priority).

Our PT test mocks our core values. Is 50 pushups really “excellence”? Does giving me an extra 0.7 points for losing 30 lbs demonstrating “integrity?”

This pt is slowly but surely eliminating the “older folks” and revamping the Air force into a younger men and womens Air force. Problem is that the younger generation lack true grit and discipline. Sure, max out the run, crunches and pushups…but can you make a sound discision to be make a wise that could cost your life or mine PLUS

Correction-
This pt is slowly but surely eliminating the “older folks” and revamping the Air force into a younger men and womens Air force. Problem is that the younger generation lack true grit and discipline. Sure, max out the run, crunches and pushups…but can you make a sound discision that may result in the loss of your life and/or mine PLUS the multi-trillion dollar piece of equipment involved? What do say to that?

Just a note from a guy who wore the Grizzley Green for half a lifetime: One can view a particular Service’s PT standards from the standpoint of combat preparedness, stamina on the job, or overall health; one thing is certain…like it or not, it’s a requirement! Part of being an Airborne Soldier always was, is, and always will be “being a part” of that for which one volunteers; the key word here is “volunteer”. While each Service has it’s own PT standards, and, likewise, each community within the individual Services has their own specific standards, the overriding situation is: 1) we all volunteered for our specific branch of Service, 2) being “big kids” and good Service members, we quickly realize that we must adapt and adjust to the circumstances in which we find ourselves, and 3) if we do not agree with the standard, we can always rejoice in that our contracts are not for an indefinite period of time…in other words, we can, following a specific period of time, LEAVE.

Congo (8) pretty much hit the nail on the head in referencing the younger generation as lacking true grit and discipline. I recall, as an NCO, administering, multiple times, the Army Physical Fitness Test (APFT) to young Soldiers (many in their teens) who couldn’t run from here to there, nor do a few pushups/situps without active involvement of the medics. Now that, in no varnished way, is nothing short of BS!

As the older generations slowly vanish, it is going to be up to the members of that “XYZ” generation to step up to the plate and assume the mantle of leadership in assuring that tradition remains strong…THERE IS SIMPLY NO OTHER WAY!

Well said Sarge!

Being an AF SNCO, I have no issues with the test. Hell, I actually like the new revisions. But the hierarchy would be wise to establish a standard and stick to it.

If you developed a new aircraft and had to take it back to be reworked a dozen times before it could fly, its doubtful the brass would buy the damned thing.

I hear the Marines and the Navy have a PT test. All they do is bend over and pickup soap bars.
As far as it comes to the USAF PT test I think it is rather crappy. I know some fat guys and girls that are in shape but there waist holds them back. I know a girl who can swim 4000 meters but can’t run well. The system should make sense and be balanced.
I am glad I am one of those people who has a 30 inch waist and 9:15 run time

USAF PT Test= The Military Is Fat. And Its Not Stand Up Sit Down Like Your Lazy Bumm FJ